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Milka Stanojevich's avatar

This was extremely insightful and thought provoking. I struggle with my animosity towards this situation. I have known about him since the 1980s. My disdain is so deep that it is tangible. When I see a person who has no integrity, and whose sole purpose is to mislead and manipulate others for hid own benefit, I still cannot let it go. Rationally, I comprehend how futile hatred and self-destructive it is, but I can’t seem to get to the point that I can feel love, even though I know that he is broken and his behavior is the fruit of his childhood.

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Michael Chatlien's avatar

Yes, integrity is so important. Carrie, I loved your sharing about the music profession and how some people can be supportive and others very cutthroat. I know this to be so true in the movie business as well. For example, lying to get ahead is so commonplace in film that it's just accepted. That's why producers never ask for a resume. Because they know most of it will be made up. So I made a decision early on in my vocation, be it film or writing, to have integrity. This applies to the my work as well as how I deal with others. So it's nice to hear about other artists who value integrity as well. Thank you both for the talk!

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Jennifer Even Melton's avatar

You both are such a balm in these times! Thank you for bringing your Lights into my darkness today❣️‼️

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Bradley, Alice's avatar

Thank you so much, Carrie for introducing us to Philip. I look forward to reading and hearing more from this holy man of integrity and love! How inspiring! I’ve recently had an experience where instead of walking away in anger, I took a deep breath, smiled and said the words, “I just couldn’t disagree with this more.” It really took them by surprise and I pray it created something inside them to question their own position and re-search their own position. However, as much as I wish I could…it’s not my job to change anyone but only to speak, walk and live in love and truth with integrity -

in community with others who do as well.

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Eileen Bloomer's avatar

Thank you for this lovely conversation and the important reminder that we are not alone. And how to disagree without hating the other person.

I was struck by Phil’s comment that when you hate it’s like taking rat poison and waiting for the rat to die-Such a perfect description!

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Dale E Dorrell's avatar

Good to hear both you and Phil, and the reminders that we are not alone. It has felt lonely of late, but listening to you last night too was wonderful. I have come to the conclusion that living in my own integrity is the best that I can do and as long as I can sing, I will be OK. Bless you both.

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Janice Johnson's avatar

Carrie...Wow...this was an amazing time of conversation...I will listen to it again for sure...and look for some of Phillip Gulley's books...the idea of living with grace and integrity is so key to navigating through these difficult times...I think I have some tools to face my family in Minnesota for a week in May with both kindness and integrity...thank you...Jan

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Michael Slosarz's avatar

Thanks so much for this wonderful episode! I found it very rich with ideas that will warrant additional listening. The concept of integrity is one I'll be reflecting on and will work on incorporating into my life. Also loved the associated notion of judging ourselves in the here and now. I have long been intrigued by Quaker spirituality and this is encouraging me to do a deeper dive by exploring Philip's work!

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Candace Chellew's avatar

I love Phil. He was nice enough to endorse my book "Bulletproof Faith" back in 2008. Thank you for this excellent conversation.

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Pamelajac's avatar

Integrity being rooted in integer or whole number…my integrity is represented in my wholeness…WOW. The entire conversation touches, leads and encourages me to go forward in love. Thanks!

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Susan Colao's avatar

I didn’t know the root of integrity either. It is now committed to memory!

And I completely agree with your other statement!

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Vicki Cook's avatar

Thankyou for this time, it was what I so needed to hear. Phillip's quote that not forgiving someone(hating) is like drinking rat poison and waiting for the rat to die. That's what I am seeing daily and it makes me really sad. How do I love this day and practice grateful attention???

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Teresa JV's avatar

Wonderful! I’ve used the phrase ‘I could not disagree more’ quite often-and with a smile😊 Thank you both-what a privilege to listen to your wisdom!

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Susan Colao's avatar

Haven’t had an opportunity to use it yet, but I’m sure I will, and this is now my go-to response when outrageous and cruel things are said.

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Phil Fitzpatrick's avatar

So insightful and encouraging. I have forwarded this widely.

My daily question is: How do I love this day and practice grateful attention.

I will remember Philip’s quote that not forgiving someone (hating) is like drinking rat poison and waiting for the rat to die.

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carrie lockridge's avatar

Thank you for hosting Philip Gulley!! I was encourage by his thought of being determined when facing tyranny, not discouraged. The thought of socially schizophrenic was interesting, but so true!! Thank you for you hope and encouragement and kindness, so much kindness!!

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